September 20

Prostagenix vs PX7 Primal Flow: Which Is Better?


Product Comparison: Prostagenix vs PX7 Primal Flow

Prostagenix and PX7 Primal Flow are both advertised as prostate support supplements. They are both marketed as natural supplements that help alleviate the symptoms of an enlarged prostate.

They are made and marketed by two different companies. And although they target the same problem, they do so from two VERY different approaches to prostate health.

Spoiler alert. This is very much about plant sterols vs herbal remedies like Stinging Nettle and Pygeum Bark for the treatment of the issue of benign prostate enlargement.

I've been doing reviews of different prostate supplements for a while now. What I've found is that in the overall market, there is a vast array of these supplements out there. They vary greatly in both price and quality. And not surprisingly, you do get better supplements as you are willing to pay for them.

Now, both of these supplements are impressive for their lists of ingredients, compared to a lot of what is out there. And I will get to that shortly.

Before I do, I wanted to mention one thing first.

This review could also be considered a "Prostagenix vs Vitalflow" review.

The reason I say that is that I recently did a review of PX7 Primal Flow and Vitalflow. In that review, I examined those two products and demonstrated that they are pretty much EXACTLY THE SAME PRODUCT. So consider this a comparison of Prostagenix vs Vitalflow, too.

Because I have to do this to please the "search engine gods" who force my hand, I'm going to cover some general information about the prostate and prostate health. But I realize I am probably going to be putting in a lot of info here that you might well already know,

I'm assuming you've probably been to a few places on the web before you got here. You probably already know about prostate supplements and why older men usually benefit from them. But because of the way the internet works, I sort of have to "stuff" this report. You see, I'm kind of forced to add content for everyone or it might never show up in your search. 

So I will show you just down below here where you can skip ahead to the particular products discussed here if you already know the preliminary stuff. Sorry it's a pain if you already know this. Sometimes the internet drives me nuts.

(If you're curious, see my article HERE on the problems with writing reviews. And if you're curious about my intended "review methodology," I write here about how I am developing my product reviews. This one is intended to follow the same routine.)

So, let's dive into the review

In this article, at a glance:

  • Why I wrote the post

(If you're new to investigating prostate support supplements, you'll want to be aware of these things.) Also,

  • What happens to the prostate and why we can all benefit from supplements
  • Why you want to treat enlarged prostate with natural products if you can
  • Why it's always a good idea to get a PSA test

And if you want to skip over the preliminaries and get right to the direct comparison about Prostagenix vs X7 Primal Flow, click HERE to jump down to the second half of the article:

  • What is common between these formulas (there is a little)
  • What is unique to PX7 Pro (and also, Vitalflow, since they are really the same product in different labels)
  • What is unique to Prostagenix Complete
  • What the "TV/radio hype" is about Prostagenix (and why I'm not convinced the hype is all it's cracked up to be)
  • Links to the product between the two that I believe is worth consideration
  • Also a link to a different product that is actually BETTER than either of these AND cheaper

Why I wrote this post

I've been blogging for a while. I enjoy sharing the results of things I've researched.

I started writing about prostate supplements because I wanted to do something to help people. It seemed to me the best way to do that would be to share some of the knowledge I've been acquiring as I've become of age to benefit from these products.

The other reason I decided to do it is because I've gotten tired (in doing my research) of having to swim through so much BS on the internet to get to the real information I want to find. And I can't think I'm the only one. So, I thought if I do this well, and provide something unique that really helps people, I'm doing a service for others as I pursue writing, which I enjoy.

So as I said, to please the search engine gods, let's do a little preliminary information passing here, ok?

To start with, let's talk about

BPH: Why older men need prostate supplement formulas

As men age, a condition known as BPH (benign prostatic hyperplasia) occurs. Hyperplasia is "an abnormal increase in the number of cells in an organ or a tissue with consequent enlargement." Now, "prostatic" refers to the prostate, and "benign" means non-cancerous.

The take away is that most men eventually develop PBH, but it doesn't mean prostate cancer. But it also doesn't mean "normal" just because most men get it. It just means it happens.

There are multiple factors for it. First of all, our bodies all break down to some extent as we age. But for some, it happens worse and/or sooner due to complications from prescription medications and/or other health factors: diabetes, heart issues and/or high blood pressure, kidney disease, stress, lack of exercise, and, of course, our modern processed diets.

You want to use a natural product to treat prostate enlargement if you can

Although not every natural substance is good for you, it's hard to find any synthetic substance that does NOT have some kind of negative effect on the human body.

I don't know if that makes sense to you, but to me, as a believer in a God who created us, I believe he made the body to be mostly self-healing. And it was designed to do that with the products that exist in our world around us in natural form.

I also want to mention that I'm not advocating you do anything without consulting a health care practitioner. I'm not a doctor. I just do extensive research in the area of natural nutrition. But you need to take my information and verify it with a medical professional you can trust.

I will also mention it is probably a good idea to get a PSA test.

If you don't know what that is, a PSA test is a "prostate-specific antigen" test. 

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According to Cleveland Clinic, "An antigen is a marker that tells your immune system whether something in your body is harmful or not. Antigens are found on viruses, bacteria, tumors and normal cells of your body."

So a prostate-specific antigen test is a test done specifically to look for markers in your blood that demonstrate your body is working to deal with cancerous or precancerous cells in your prostate.

Always good to know that you're only dealing with BPH and not something more serious.

So what are prostate supplements intended to do?

The prostate supplement market is trying to tackle the problem of the symptoms and complications that come with prostate enlargement:

  • more frequent urges to urinate (and especially at night.... very annoying)
  • difficulty or pain during urination
  • difficulty starting urination
  • weak urine stream or a stream that stops and starts
  • dribbling at the end of urination
  • inability to completely empty the bladder
  • and (sometimes) resulting loss of "performance" sexually

These products are made up of all kinds of different combinations of plant sterols, herbs, vitamins and minerals, occasionally along with other varying ingredients like certain amino acids in different amounts and combinations.

Typical ingredients will often include Beta Sitosterol, Stinging Nettle root, Pumpkin seed extract, Pygeum bark and other fruits and herbs. You will also see that some of them contain certain amino acids like L-Alinine, L-Glycine, L-Glutamic Acid and others.

It's actually become a fascinating market to me. I'm amused and frustrated with the marketing techniques (and schemes) that go into some of these product pushes in the real world. As a little side note here, you might want to read this article I wrote about the way prostate supplements are marketed to see, for instance, why some brands seem to consistently get nothing but glowing reviews.

So how do Prostagenix and PX7 Primal Flow stack up?

Prostagenix and PX7 both sit on the high end of the product price range. For what it's worth, this is partly because they both pay heavily for the cost to advertise the products.

In the case of Prostagenix, they have extensive pushes into direct advertising to the consumer on the radio and on many places on the internet. These ads cost a lot of money and the cost must be incorporated into the price.

On the other hand, PX7 Primal Flow is a product that is sold over the internet. But rather than the manufacturer paying directly for advertising this stuff, they pay people who "advertise" on their behalf in the form of "affiliate commissions." (I myself actually have affiliate links to PX7 on this site. If you click on one of those links and purchase the product, I do receive a "finder's fee" for pointing you to their website to purchase.)

But these products are also both more "packed" with greater quantities of ingredients than their corresponding cheaper "generic" competing brands. So the cost is actually offset in that regard anyway.

You pay more for either of these than their generic counterparts, but you get more bang for your buck in the purchase, too.

So, how do these two prostate supplements compare to each other (and to the broader market)?

As with other reviews about prostate supplements that I've done so far, it seemed to make sense to put it into a chart format so you can see what I'm describing here. In this case, a picture is worth a few hundred words, anyway.

I've grouped these ingredients by types: herbal supplements (like cayenne peppr and Reish Mushroom), plant sterols (like Beta Sitosterol), polyphenals (like Grape Seed extract), vitamins, amino acids and various minerals.

Don't, for now, get too bogged down in the details of it all. And don't get too distracted by the particular quantities of ingredients. The broader picture is more about how these too products are vastly different in terms of their respective ingredients lists.

The first column is the ingredient list in the PX7 Primal flow; the second column is the Prostagenix; the third column is a list of other products (kind of thrown in for comparison) to show that other products in the market have some of these ingredients too.

It just gives you a 500-foot view of how these products compare to each other and the broader supplement market in general.

Prostagenix vs PX7 Primal Flow

First, a broad brush stroke: looking at the ingredients list, it's "herbal" vs "plant sterols."

What do I mean by that?

I spent a considerable amount of time comparing and contrasting the various ingredients in many of these brands of products. As I said, I put them into excel sheet format for easy comparison.

The more I looked at these two, the more I realized they seemed to approach this whole issue of treating enlarged prostate with two different philosophies.

What is unique to Prostagenix?

On the one hand, there is the Prostagenix, which has a lot of the beta sitosterol found in Super Beta Prostate (another TV brand). It has other plant sterols, too, which is actually a broader approach than SBP, which focuses on only one sterol compound. But it has NOTHING from the "herbal" department.

What are the Beta Sitosterol, Campesterol, Brassicasterol and all these other plant sterols in Prostagenix?

Sterols are a class of chemicals in the body that serve many functions. They have components that can dissolve in fat-like molecules and other parts that dissolve in water. The most commonly heard of human sterol is "cholesterol," (and remember, there is good cholesterol and bad cholesterol). Some people take plant sterols -- such as vitamins A, D, E and K -- as supplements.

They are used for signals between cells, for making stronger cell membranes, 

The particular sterol (in both of these brands) is beta sitosterol. While it is part of the content of the PX7, it is the major component of Prostagenix. According to WebMD,

Beta-sitosterol might help reduce cholesterol levels by limiting the amount of cholesterol that is able to enter the body. It can also help reduce swelling in the prostate and other tissues.

People most commonly use beta-sitosterol for lowering cholesterol levels and improving symptoms of an enlarged prostate (BPH). It's also used for heart disease, rheumatoid arthritis (RA), male-pattern baldness, and many other conditions, but there is no good scientific evidence to support many of these other uses.
from WebMD

So it seems, perhaps, what they are saying is it can reduce swelling in the prostate. But when I looked at the NIH (National Institutes of Health), it said something different.

The NIH has a record of a double-blind, controlled study of over 500 men.  Their points about it: "The trial using 100% B-sitosteryl show improvement in urinary flow measures. B-sitosterols did not reduce prostate size."

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So yes, it seems the best gage (double-blind, placebo controlled studies) shows that it helped with symptoms - improvement in urination, reduction in frequency, etc. But it DID NOT reduce the size of the prostate.

So let's keep that in mind as we look more closely at the other competitor here.

What is unique to PX7 Primal Flow?

The PX7 Primal Flow does have a bit of the plant sterol compound in it. But the bulk of what it has is this amazingly long and full list of different herbal ingredients.

These ingredients are in a number of different products and it seems studies have supported that these ingredients do, in fact, have some effect in both relieving symptoms and even perhaps shrinking the prostate.

Let's look at the deep dive on the research on these ingredients. From what I see here, I'm assuming the others are probably effective also. (My thought is if they put them all in here, and these "hot ones" pass muster, they likely put the others in for the same reason. I didn't research them all, and if I did, the post would be a book rather than a web page.

But I selected these because I'm more familiar with them in other products, so it seemed worth zeroing in on them as a focus. I know these are showing up in a lot of studies, including some controlled, double-blind studies that point to their actual effectiveness - BOTH for controlling symptoms AND reducing prostate size and growth. 

That seems a little more to me than JUST symptom relief as with Prostagenix.

Anyway, let's look at these particular ingredients (as they definitely have some street cred with the NIH):

  • stinging nettle,
  • saw palmetto,
  • pumpkin seed extract
  • pygeum extract.

Stinging Nettle

In an article on the NIH website called "A comprehensive review on the stinging nettle effect and efficacy profiles," it has this to say about stinging nettle.

Nettle root is recommended for complaints associated with benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH). We therefore conducted a comprehensive review of the literature to summarise the pharmacological and clinical effects of this plant material.  It seems likely that sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG), aromatase, epidermal growth factor and prostate steroid membrane receptors are involved in the anti-prostatic effect... 

Translation: Nettle Root seems to work with sex hormones in the body and prostate cell membrane receptors to create the effectiveness of reducing the enlargement. (By the way, I'm getting good results with an estrogen reducer called Testodren - it helps the body convert bad estrogen to testosterone and so it helps lower estrogen and increase testosterone. But if you wish, you can read my research about that here.) 

Extract and a polysaccharide fraction were shown to exert anti-inflammatory activity. A proprietary... nettle root extract... inhibited cell proliferation.

Translation: Nettle root extract inhibited the increase in the number of cells growing in the prostate.

The clinical evidence of effectiveness for nettle root in the treatment of BPH is based on many open studies. A small number of randomized controlled studies indicate that a proprietary methanolic extract is effective in improving BPH complaints.... The risk for adverse events during nettle root treatment is very low, as is its toxicity.

Translation: Nettle Root studies are many. Randomized, controlled studies indicate it is effective in improving BPH complaints.

In a study by Mount Sanai Hospital, they say, "Stinging nettle root is used widely in Europe to treat BPH. Studies in people suggest that stinging nettle, in combination with other herbs (especially saw palmetto), may be effective at relieving symptoms such as reduced urinary flow, incomplete emptying of the bladder, post urination dripping, and the constant urge to urinate."

Summary on stinging nettle: effective at reducing symptoms AND reducing size of prostate and number of cells. That sounds like a better deal than JUST masking symptoms. Stopping (and maybe reversing?) overgrowth seems more like dealing with ROOT CAUSE rather than just easing symptoms.

This brings us to....

Saw Palmetto

The NIH has an interesting article looking at a controlled, blind study (the best testing method, it seems) about Saw Palmetto.

Results: Subjects treated with β-sitosterol enriched saw palmetto oil showed significant decrease in IPSS, AMS and ADAM scores along with reduced postvoiding residual volume (p < 0.001), PSA (p < 0.01) and 5α-reductase from baseline to end of 12-week treatment as compared to placebo. There was also a significant increment in the maximum and average urine flow rate (p < 0.001), and serum free testosterone level of subjects treated with enriched saw palmetto oil as compared to placebo.
Conclusion: This study demonstrates the efficacy of β-sitosterol enriched saw palmetto oil superior to conventional oil thus extending the scope of effective BPH and androgen deficiency treatment with improved quality of life through the intake of functional ingredients.

Translation: The study had three groups of people in it. One part got a placebo; a second part got the Saw Palmetto by itself; the third part got the Saw Palmetto together with beta sitosterol. There was a marked difference in benefit, mostly in the group that got the combination of beta sitosterol AND the Saw Palmetto.

So notice, now, that the PX7 Primal flow has both the beta sitosterol AND the Saw Palmetto. To me, that is a BIG PLUS, and maybe the reason it works for me so well.

Pumpkin Seed Extract

in a PubMed.Gov article (NIH) they discussed pumpkin seed extract for treating symptoms of PBH (prostate enlargement). In this study, they used a pumpkin seed extract to test its effectiveness on treating symptoms of enlarged prostate.

They had a total of 60 men, average age of 62 with very high levels of symptoms. They received one dose daily of pumpkin seed extract, for 3 months. 

Change in IPSS [standard grading for symptoms] within treatment period was assessed. Frequency of nocturia was recorded by bladder diary, and postvoid residual urine volume was determined through ultrasound. Between baseline and after 12 weeks of supplementation, a significant symptom reduction of an average 30.1%.... Symptom alleviation had a high impact on quality of life... and was significant after 8 and 12 weeks of intervention... Nocturia significantly decreased over time, as confirmed by IPSS questionnaire and bladder diary. Postvoid residual urine volume was significantly reduced at the end of intervention... 
These results indicate that the oil-free hydroethanolic pumpkin seed extract seems to be a very well tolerable, appropriate plant extract to support health benefits in a collective suffering from BPH related symptoms without the need of medical treatment.

Translation: The men kept diary records and they tested the bladder contents with ultrasound. Results?

  • An average of 30% reduction occurred:
  • decreased nighttime urination;
  • a great reduction of urine left in the bladder after urination

Bottom line is it seems to have a great impact on reducing symptoms.

Something Better Than Prostagenix

One thing to note about NIH reports is that they always show a "conflict of interest" statement about those running the study. Just something to be aware of.

Some of guys doing the study work for companies that make pharmaceuticals or natural products. One is an independent urologist, and a fourth one is employed by the University of Graz. They all declare that they have no conflict of interest.

But I like that the NIH lists this stuff with the study. Always good to be transparent.

Pygeum Bark

You can find a lot on the NIH website. If you can intrepret the "glockspeak" it has some good information. And I wanted to touch on something I found about this Pygeum Bark that is in the PX7 Primal Flow.

From a paper on the NIH website (trimmed for clarity):

Trials were searched in computerized general and specialized databases, by checking bibliographies, and by contacting relevant manufacturers and researchers....
Trials were eligible if they (1) were randomized (2) included men with BPH (3) compared preparations of Pygeum africanum (alone or in combination) with placebo or other BPH medications (4) included clinical outcomes such as urologic symptom scales, symptoms, or urodynamic measurements. Eligibility was assessed by at least two independent observers. 
A total of 18 randomized controlled trials involving 1562 men met inclusion criteria and were analyzed... 17 were double-blinded... The [average] study duration was 64 days... 
Compared to men receiving placebo, Pygeum africanum provided a moderately large improvement in the combined outcome of urologic symptoms and flow measures... Men using Pygeum africanum were more than twice as likely to report an improvement in overall symptoms... Nocturia was reduced by 19%, residual urine volume by 24% and peak urine flow was increased by 23%. Adverse effects due to Pygeum Africanum were mild and comparable to placebo. 
Reviewer's conclusions: A standardized preparation of Pygeum africanum may be a useful treatment option for men with lower urinary symptoms consistent with benign prostatic hyperplasia....

Are there other products worth considering?

You might want to look at Prostagenix and Super Beta Prostate. I don't have links to those. (They don't sell by affiliate marketing, either.)

They are sold by radio and TV commercials. They make a boast about plant sterols. Keep in mind, if you're looking for reviews of these products, they're not as uniformly glowing as for products like PX7 and Vitalflow. And that is because of marketing bias. It's a fact of internet life.

Also see the note at the bottom about VigRX.

I thought I should put this in here. Not many days after publishing this post, I found a link to a product that to me is far better than EITHER of these. See my note at the end of the post about this VigRX.

Almost exactly like my recommendation of my (old) favourite, but about half again the quantities of ingredients, and at a cheaper price!!

Trust me on this one. VigRX is something I just discovered that is actually like about 1.5 times what you get in the PX7 Primal Flow (and CHEAPER!) I only discovered it after I wrote this article. See at the bottom.

Are plant sterols "all that?"

Honestly, based on what I'm reading in the NIH studies, I'm not sure that the guys at SBP are correct about beta sitosterol being the only thing that matters. 

I honestly don't know. I know that Super Beta Prostate boasts TWICE the amount of plant sterols that the PX7 has. But the beta sitosterol in the PX7 is there to work in conjunction with the stinging nettle. It doesn't seem to be an ingredient to work on its own so much as to increase the effectiveness of the stinging nettle in the formula.

The prostagenix seems to be geared around the whole plant sterol complex as being "the thing." Remember, though: WebMD said it helps with symptoms and might reduce prostate swelling. But the NIH double-blind study seemed to indicate that it really only helped with symptoms but not with reducing inflammation.

The ingredients in the PX7 Primal Flow are shown in NIH studies to do both: relieve symptoms AND reduce inflammation.

I suppose the Primegenix is worth a try if you're interested. But it didn't work for me. For me, I found results from the ingredients in the PX7 Primal Flow. And honestly, I let it go for a while before I actually found the PX7.

So when I started with the PX7, I actually doubled it up for about 6 weeks or so, to get a jump on the game. The recommended dose is 2 capsules per day. I went with 4 for a while, and now use 2 per day as a maintenance amount after I got the results I needed.

My current regimen is now PX7 Primal Flow.

Click on the picture below to jump to the manufacturer's website. I think it's the bomb.

Try it. They offer discounts for multiple bottles purchased together and offer a money-back guarantee if you're not satisfied. What do you have to lose?

Get PX7 Primal Flow HERE. But don't forget to see the note below about VigRX.....

The other bomb

The Bomb

Important note: I JUST found this product (after I had written this article) called VigRX that is actually almost ingredient-for-ingredient a direct match for PX7 except that the amounts of ingredients (the IMPORTANT ones) are 50% MORE in the VigRX. And it's CHEAPER!! I will be posting about this shortly. But in the meantime, here is THE ONE I NOW RECOMMEND.

VigRX is THE product I now recommend

Trust me on this. I was running low on my PX7 but I just ordered this instead. 

I am currently working on a post about this. As soon as I finish it, I will redirect from here to that post so you can see what I mean.



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